080 – Tyler Kortekaas – New Guy

In this Happy Hour podcast, we’re chatting with Tyler Kortekaas about how he ended up in Madison studying film production and why he makes films.


  • (6:40) Who is Tyler Kortekaas?
  • (7:32) Tyler’s first video project.
  • (8:08) NLE’s.
  • (19:39) What did Tyler find interesting about film.
  • (22:28) Tyler’s favorite writers.
  • (29:49) How did Tyler end up in Madison?
  • (37:29) Next steps.
  • (40:57) How did John and Ryan meet?
  • (48:22) Why make films?
  • (54:44) Two truths and a lie.


Ryan Freng 10:13
Hello and welcome back to a another backflip happy hour. I’m Ryan Freng. co creative director here at backflip. Don’t cancel a Spotify. We’re not going to talk about anything crazy. We’re going to talk about everything crazy. Joining me as always is John Shoemaker say Hey, John.

John Shoemaker 10:31
Hey John. Don’t even get me started.

Ryan Freng 10:34
Don’t even get you started. Want to bring bring the doctors on, I don’t care how many patents you have or degrees, you’re cancelled. It doesn’t matter. You’re cancelled. It smells like like fireworks in here. We’re doing a commercial next week, where we have these smoke bombs and they burn a chemical and creates colored smoke and it’s amazing. Wherever stream today is like what is going on and it smells so bad. It made me nauseous earlier. If it makes me nauseous, I’ll I’ll let you know. I’ll give you the symbol and then I’ll go puke somewhere else. So this is a happy hour. What? What are you drinking today? John? We just had lunch to celebrate this next person as well as Max’s birthday, but are you drinking more now?

John Shoemaker 11:26
I have. I have two options. Okay. I grabbed the Midwest D Nice. Midwest the pill for

Ryan Freng 11:41
design by the wonderful and a house.

John Shoemaker 11:44
That is correct. And then just in case, the healthy alternative to beer. Got a blood orange hot water sitting here.

Ryan Freng 11:55
I tell you what, it’s got the new tropics. It’s so good. Yeah. Adaptogens I don’t know what the hell it is. It sounds like you’re winning at a video game. Because you’ve got these. Yeah, so that’s what I’m drinking to. I’ve got the hot water. It’s great. It’s a great little zero calorie like Hoppy, fun drink because we just went to lunch and I had some drinks and now I want to not have drinks. So that’s how this happy hour is going. So we’ve got Tyler with us today. I’m gonna bring Tyler on. Here he is what’s up, Tyler?

Tyler Kortekaas 12:28
Hey, guys.

Ryan Freng 12:30
Yo, we can hear you. That’s great. We all just got back from lunch.

Tyler Kortekaas 12:36
I wonderful Cooley’s MLS.

Ryan Freng 12:38
Yeah, had you been to bullies before? No,

Tyler Kortekaas 12:41
but I was telling Scott I’m gonna I’m telling all my friends to go that place is awesome.

Ryan Freng 12:46
Oh, it’s so like, kitschy and all the paraphernalia. It’s so fun. Like, there was no one there when we got there, which is also part of I’m so amazed that they’re still open, but I think they I think they do a killing in the evenings and they do special. They have bands on the weekend. Which is really fun. Oh, I want def Yeah, definitely. Yeah, they actually through COVID They created a great patio where you can go outside and the band plays is really

Tyler Kortekaas 13:11
sad. There’s beach volleyball, too, right?

Ryan Freng 13:13
I don’t know if it’s court. Yeah. Court volleyball inside. That’s not too bad. Did you did you grab anything to drink? Do you have anything fun? Waters? Okay,

Tyler Kortekaas 13:25
I have an Arizona iced tea.

Ryan Freng 13:27
Ooh, there it is. I haven’t had one of those. Are those good?

Tyler Kortekaas 13:33
I like them a lot. I’m a big fan of that. They have a green tea one, which is amazing. Nice.

John Shoemaker 13:39

Ryan Freng 13:39
Try that giant ones. Yeah, yeah,

John Shoemaker 13:43
you can get for like, under $1.

Tyler Kortekaas 13:45
Yeah, the 99 cents. That’s how you know it’s much it’s too much.

Ryan Freng 13:51
Yeah. Cool. So we’ve got Tyler court costs, right? Yeah. Yeah. Tyler quarter costs. Joining us today, because I keep spelling it because I have to keep writing it out when I’m like, adding new to software and things. Joining us today, you’re a recent hire an intern for production, and editing and kind of everything like at a small business. We do a little bit of everything. And you’re still in school. So, so welcome. And thanks for coming and hanging.

Tyler Kortekaas 14:29
Thank you. Thank you for having me. Yeah, so

Ryan Freng 14:31
give give us a little bit more about your backstory. I don’t think I I think I might have shook your hand. When you interviewed with Scott or Scott and John or whatever. Like, that was all I knew until they were like, Hey, Scott, or Tyler’s Awesome. Yeah, he’s gonna come start working with us. So that’s about all I know about you. Why don’t you tell us a little bit about yourself?

Tyler Kortekaas 14:55
Um, yeah, so I’m in my last year at school right now. grew up in Connecticut. Which was, which was awesome. I love that. But my family lives in Colorado now. So I wish I grew up there because I fit in way better there. I started making videos in high school and then just trying to be funny. And then I very quickly just fell in love with actually making them so just kind of kind of sticking with that. And then I went to school and then started doing that film there and film production. And now I’m here in beautiful cold Madison, Wisconsin.

Ryan Freng 15:42
So cold right now what what was your first film? Or what was the first like thing you created?

Tyler Kortekaas 15:48
first things I did? It was I was making. Just like fate. I was making like music covers for like, I was making like, funny songs basically like videos of funny songs.

Ryan Freng 16:03
But no nice, like weird owl. Yeah,

Tyler Kortekaas 16:05
pretty much. I don’t really think they were that funny in the end. And then I started writing like skits on my Instagram and stuff, which was, and then it just became a whole production.

Ryan Freng 16:19
I mean, talk, talk more about that. So like, when I when I was up and coming. We had VHS, VHS cameras, which was nice, because like, we actually could get our hands on cameras, but then your reel to reel editing. And then when you have a VHS you have to have a VHS player to show somebody so you couldn’t show it. Many people. But you said you were creating Instagram stuff on Instagram. Right? What were you doing? What was that like?

Tyler Kortekaas 16:45
So I mean, so luckily, so my reason I’m into film is because both my parents met at photography school at Tisch. So that’s been really great. Because a they know a lot about, you know, just the fundamentals and you know, lighting and also they should have a ton of camera equipment all over the place. So I was using my mom’s I don’t know what the model that was in her one of my mom’s old Nikon’s with video. And then just using a camera microphone for that. And then I was doing just iMovie for a while too long. And then back my dad for Final Cut, which I’m starting to evolve out of, but I still use it a lot because

Ryan Freng 17:30
I just know it’s so Oh, yeah, like what what was it Final Cut? Was it eight was the last version right

Tyler Kortekaas 17:35
now? What? Its Final Cut 10 Right now,

Ryan Freng 17:38
no Final Cut X is like iMovie Pro. Yes. Sounds good. But I guess where we’re at? Yeah. So that’s a generational gap. That’s, that’s a general generational gap that we have, because editors were on Final Cut. And maybe it’s seven, it was seven or eight. Right around seven. Yeah. And then they stopped making new versions. And that’s where they stopped and Premiere wasn’t good enough yet. And Avid, you still had to have the whole system. So final cut was the software that everyone used, but it wasn’t X yet. And x kind of rubbed the industry the wrong way. Because it had just a different paradigm of editing. Which I think is great because then it got more people into editing. Right and that’s what I think is more important than doing things what the way that we have been but I know a lot of people jumped ship or are still on seven somebody who’s on maybe fact check that for me. I can do that in a minute. But yeah, I think it’s seven Final Cut seven. And I we have a version we have an earlier version to somebody pulled that out the other day it’s it comes in like a big box and tons of CDs and

John Shoemaker 18:53
yeah, like you’d have to be fighting back against the establishment pretty hard to still be on seven. Like you’re not getting any software or support. You probably, you know, got things that are like breaking left and right in your program.

Ryan Freng 19:11
Yeah, yeah.

John Shoemaker 19:12
Yeah. Funny enough, the final cut XML you know, sidecar file has sort of, like, maintained, you know, stayed around, it’s still in existence as a way to like transfer data from one software system to another software system. You can still export Final Cut from like other

Tyler Kortekaas 19:36
songs. Yeah, I’ve noticed that I’ve noticed that like, and I’m like, because we’ve been doing I’ve been doing premiere and resolve and it’s like, that’s always an option. So it’s, I mean, it’s good.

Ryan Freng 19:46
Yeah. So what do you what do you guys actually use at school these days? Because you’re at University Wisconsin Madison. Yeah.

Tyler Kortekaas 19:53
Yeah. So they have the Adobe Suite, which we’ve been using, pretty much for everything but they They do resolve, I took an editing class last semester, which I didn’t think, you know, I added all the time. So I was like, I’m not gonna learn anything. But I actually, you know, it was a, it was a really good experience, boring class, but it was fun. It was just the, the teacher made it boring. But it was and then we did it. But there was a color grading unit that we did resolve. So it was good, because it was, you know, a tie, everyone had a round trip to and from Premiere resolve. So, you know, I didn’t no idea about extra miles and stuff. So that was good.

Ryan Freng 20:35
Yeah, and we were, we were doing that for a little while. But we would have these updates. So premier updates frequently, and you update it, and then it stops working or stops working with the project that you had. And you have to upgrade. And we were just having problems with Premiere, because we were premiere shot for a long time because premiere actually was affordable as a small company, and allowed us to get into the editing space. And it became it got to a point where studios could use it for movies and TV. So we’re like, hey, that that should be more than what we need. But it then continue that kind of robust trend and just got too much junk in there. And just doesn’t run efficiently these days for us. So we were using, what was that program to John? Or actually, Tyler, you may know this as well. The grading software that premiere had speed grid speed grade? Did they end of life? It already?

John Shoemaker 21:37
I think so. I’ve never taken over? Yeah, they had taken over a Color Suite from another company called speed grade. And then they just kind of slap the Adobe logo on it, but they never really like tight integration.

Ryan Freng 21:54
Right? It wasn’t great. Yeah.

Tyler Kortekaas 21:56
So what about did you guys switch over completely to resolve?

Ryan Freng 22:00
So when or why? Well, I

Tyler Kortekaas 22:02
guess both. But Lana, was asking.

Ryan Freng 22:05
Oh, he was through COVID. Right. Did we do it before COVID?

John Shoemaker 22:12
It? I don’t know. It’s a blur. It’s all a blur in there. But

Ryan Freng 22:14
yeah, well, you and I aren’t the primary editors. So we only do stuff and similarily. And we dope in Adobe and DaVinci.

John Shoemaker 22:24
I mean, this is gonna be a challenge with any software that exists in the world is Adobe took over, because Final Cut was older and built on an older system. And, you know, like just

Ryan Freng 22:40
the older wasn’t advancing. Yeah, yeah, it wasn’t advancing

John Shoemaker 22:43
older a piece of software, it gets the the more little things are running in the background. I mean, it’s just been updated and updated on top of itself. And so, and then Apple made a business decision that actually makes sense from a business standpoint, but industry folks are upset and bailed on it. And so Adobe kind of took over the market share. But now Adobe has got the same problem. They’ve got such a big old piece of software built on an infrastructure that it’s old. And so they’ve patched a lot of things, but you just have things that come up, like you have weird, weird errors that show up, it freezes up, there’s problems and like, I’m not a software developer, but I can understand it intellectually, the issue of just like, this thing is, it was built in a different time. And so we were using resolve for color correction anyway, having to do that round trip that you described Tyler that you learned at school. And it was like, Can we smooth this out? Can we just resolve added an editing feature, and then started making that work more robust. And when we switch switched over to it, we’re like, wow, this is really smooth that does not crash and works really well. It works well with high quality footage with raw footage, you know, and then you don’t, you’re never wanting to be destructive in your editing. And the process, if we shot in RAW, we would have to go through resolve, and then export those as some intermediary file to use in Premiere. And then you color on top of that, or maybe you edit the intermediary, and then you send it back to resolve and then you color there again, like just kind of a mess, and it would be great to just edit on the raw files, apply a lot in your color correction. Right? You know, and then you cannot you’re always working with the source material. So that was part of the reason it was just like this is a seamless workflow all the way through.

Tyler Kortekaas 24:57
Right. And the good thing about resolve too is that I mean, there’s the there’s the free version, which is like,

Ryan Freng 25:03
yes, yeah, you can do

Tyler Kortekaas 25:04
so much with that. But yeah, I mean, I started using it because as like graduation present, I got a Blackmagic Pocket Cinema 4k camera that came with a studio that came with the resolve license. So I was I just using it a bit there. So to kind of like, you know, when I was sick of Final Cut, I would switch over to that. And now that I know it better, I love it.

Ryan Freng 25:35
Yeah, well, and there’s there’s just that nice integration with color. So we, we would use Premiere, and then we would try to do color and the premiere color wasn’t super great. So then we jumped back into I’ve already forgotten the name, whatever the premiere, or Adobe system was speed grade. Yeah, thank you. And that round tripping wasn’t even great. And like John was saying, with the proxies, it just, it was so rough. And it was all the same company. But it was it was very rough. And DaVinci kind of came out of nowhere. People in the industry knew and had been using resolve. But Blackmagic just kept buying up these other companies, the software companies, and then combining it all in a great way in the film industry kind of world. And we stumbled upon it because we had a camera. So we had a license and started using it for color. And I was just like they keep increasing the functionality in their edits. Let’s jump over, you know, they’re advertising hard. All these movies that get edited in here, let’s just do that, instead of the workflow that we have. That’s not working. So yeah, we switch over to that. And I think so far it’s working. We have trouble here in there, because software is software, but but we love it and have you have you gotten into that yet? What are you? Because you’ve done some radio cuts? of some things? Are you in Resolve? Are you in something else?

Tyler Kortekaas 26:58
Yeah, I was we were doing that and resolve. Because I mean, that’s, it wasn’t the most, you know, like high tech editing, and he was just kind of cutting and moving. So you know, the resolve editor was great for that. Yeah,

Ryan Freng 27:15
sure. We’ll get you some more difficult stuff at some point get you into color, too. We’ve got the we just got to color panel to grade with to make it a little bit smoother. So all right, I got some more questions for you too. Because again, I don’t know a ton about you. So your family’s now in Colorado. You’re kind of a Colorado person you mentioned you started doing or your personality is more Colorado than where you grew up. You mentioned you started doing film in or video making in high school? What? What about it got you into it? Like what? What was interesting to you?

Tyler Kortekaas 27:56
Yeah, I mean, I kind of like everything. But I yeah, I mean, as I said, like I started just trying to be funny. And then I would just spend time like writing a lot. And one of the great things is one of my best friends in high school was kind of doing the same thing. And both me and him had met about, we met probably junior year or something. So I’d already kind of started making videos. And then I met him and he had already been making videos on his own. And then so just kind of having that and then you know, he’s, he’s probably the funniest guy now. So we would just kind of sit there and we would just kind of write stuff together and then, you know, help each other out. And just kind of, I don’t know, we always every time we make a video, we just send it to each other kind of like a playful, it’s kind of like a playful rivalry almost. But no, that was that was great. So I really liked writing and editing and I kind of just wanted, I think the reason I like editing a lot is because I just like seeing it come together. But you know, now that I know a lot more, you know, it’s nice, you know, it’s nice, having like, these great shots that I can now put together better, you know, because I you know, you can only make the editing so cool, you know?

Ryan Freng 29:24
Yeah, well, and to a certain extent, and you’ll see a lot more of this. When you get working on more editing, hear the editors or our writers, you know, that’s a big part of what editors do. And they don’t get a lot credit for that in kind of mainstream film world. But here we try to give our editors as you know, we try to show their appreciation for their writing. Because we’ll come up with a plan. A lot of it’s done documentary, we’ll come up with a plan for the story we want to tell then we’ll capture a bunch of stuff and then we hand it to them and say okay, here’s what we intended, here’s what we got go. Because we’re not gonna write a script on every documentary thing. And so there’s a lot of writing that goes into that. So I think at the small level in production writing really lends itself well in the Edit space as well. And I think, Jeff, who left each kind of change careers or lead editor, to be a designer, he was, I think, he’d probably say he’s a writer, like, first, he’d probably say he’s a writer, and then an editor down, you know, two or three. But he’s, he’s a phenomenal editor as well. So it’s, it’s so important to have that as a part of it. Do you have any? Do you have any favorite writers? Movie, television, whatever.

Tyler Kortekaas 30:45
Right? I will say, I’ve been watching more and more David Fincher stuff. And I just, I love it. Like, I just watched The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo break. And I was like that. Sure. I was like, that was a masterpiece. But and then, but that was kind of cool. Because I had learned about that in my editing class, you know, what you were kind of, to your point about being a writer, you know, in your edits. We watched, we were, you know, watching interviews with the the two editors who do date adventurous stuff, and it’s just, you know, a lot of that is, you know, you have to make those creative choices, which I think is really cool.

Ryan Freng 31:27
And Bear through somebody doing 70 takes something and then just choosing the first tag, so

Tyler Kortekaas 31:34
yeah, exactly. Yeah. We had this this in my class, we were doing this, they had given us this, like, student film that was filmed a couple of years ago to you know, and everyone had to do their own editing version of the film. And it was just the performance sucks.

Ryan Freng 31:53
Because it was, yeah, oh, no,

Tyler Kortekaas 31:54
it was It wasn’t mine, it was a student film. It wasn’t completely well made. But it was also just that, I would say that it was better made than the performances, you know, so you’re just sitting through, like, all those takes was, you know, you just had to, you know, be creative and kind of change the script around just around how well they sold it, you know, it takes just in, you know, they weren’t emotionally impactful enough to, like, even kind of keep it.

Ryan Freng 32:24
Right. And I used to watch, like, I used to love watching behind the scenes. And one of my favorites was like Rush Hour, and just seeing all the fun that they had in the filmmaking. And I’m like, Oh, my gosh, that sounds like so much fun. I want to do that. You know, along with, like, Lord of the Rings was that early 2000s, and all that content. But you get into it, and yeah, it’s, it’s like life. There’s a lot of great stuff. But then there’s there’s also hard stuff like, hey, this actor never delivered what we needed to deliver. And so I have to come up with a solution for that, whether it’s an editing solution, a VFX solution or a shooting solution, we got to come up with something to fix that. And it you know, it all depends on do we have the Do we have the budget? Do we have the personnel do we have the content? Who do we have whatever, you know, it’s it’s so much more complicated that it seems however, the fun onset. Just energy is real, and that creativeness? I think is what drew me in. And so, I, I like that a lot. I liked the collaboration. And I hope that you’re able to experience some of that in school. You know, that’s, that’s kind of the challenge of like, oh, go learn some stuff. Well, when you get out, then you’re going to really learn how to do stuff. So, you know, try to get the value you can out of the school and, and figure out what the heck that is.

Tyler Kortekaas 33:57
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I’ve learned a lot from my classes, but I’d say I mean, at least with the video stuff, all I’ve learned is just by churning stuff out, like, I’m always I kind of always have one thing in like a one video I’m working on one time. So it’s like, I don’t know, like, I’m in a fraternity. So I’m always at least once a semester, I’ll do like their rush videos or something. But those are, you know, it’s what I like, again, about like, making stuff is, you know, all these people get to see it, which is great.

John Shoemaker 34:30
Well, and we talked at one point, just in some maybe it was a lunch conversation or something. There was like, what, what kind of film do you like making Mollis? And it occurred to me that like, oh, yeah, you know, I’m very interested. I want to pursue some narrative fiction project, but I actually really, really do like documentary. And that, that even More comes down to like, the editor needs to have some writing chops. Like, obviously, there are writers involved in like big documentaries. But we even had a project, you know, a pretty big project that involved the writer for a documentary, and we ended up having to re sort of rewrite a lot of pieces, because, you know, you take the text SCRAN, the text transcript of what people said, and you start putting that together and suddenly find other, there enter energy between these two different speakers is so different that it doesn’t like mesh that well. And I, even though what they’re saying kind of would work together, I actually need the energy level. So I need to like, tie it together in a different way. And maybe I’ll use this moment Olympian where they came down and energy, and then that can transition from there into this other speaker and stuff. So I really like it’s really fun doing documentary in mind. And also is like one of the areas where you really need writers in the in the edit suite, to both feel out the editors job of like, pacing, and motion energy, but then also to say, Okay, it’s gotta be in service of this story. So how do we get there? Knowing what we got from the interviews or from the footage?

Tyler Kortekaas 36:35
Right? Yeah. And so one of my most like, one of the most recent projects, which took me I filmed it in the summer. And then I think that’s kind of where I had come from when I we talked about me like documentaries, because I had filmed this whole documentary about like local medicine musicians is kind of a personal challenge. And so I went out, and I knew one of them and he was able to other musicians. And I just asked him a bunch of questions, because I knew I kind of wanted to make a documentary, but I didn’t know exactly what I wanted it to be about. So I just kind of went out and I asked them all, like the same questions. And each interview was like, 1520 minutes long. And then I had all this footage, and I sat on it for, you know, weeks, months of Washington, and I was like, alright, well, what do I want this to be about now? Like? And so, you know, as time went on, I kind of narrowed down alright, you know, this is half now I know what the main message is. Now I have to cut this down to I didn’t want it to be longer than 10 minutes. I think it was seven minutes in the end. So but just trying to like, peel through that was, I mean, it was all writing. Just kind of with what I had, which I really enjoyed because it gave me kind of that personal freedom, you know?

Ryan Freng 38:00
Yeah, so what, what kind of brought you to Madison, so you grew up in Colorado? Why? Why Madison? And did you start in film school? Or did you start somewhere else?

Tyler Kortekaas 38:12
No. Um, so I, I grew up in Connecticut.

Ryan Freng 38:18
I just moved. Okay. The Colorado okay.

Tyler Kortekaas 38:24
Yeah, we moved in, like my freshman year. We sure. So I had applied to a whole range of schools because I didn’t really know what I’ve quite well, I kind of had this idea in the back of my mind that I’m going to do film stuff. But I applied to a whole range of schools, and it was kind of all over the place. Because in high school, I was a huge rower, like boats. And that was my whole life back then. You know, I do videos on the weekends, but I was rolling about. I don’t know, we had practice three hours a day, six days a week, and I would go home and do some more intense Yeah, especially for my life. But so I had applied and I kind of knew I didn’t want to row in college. But I was kind of entertaining ideas. So I kind of applied to a bunch of schools where if I wanted to, I could walk on, but that’s ultimately why I didn’t but ultimately, I didn’t want to get recruited because I didn’t really reach out to many coaches because I knew I wanted I didn’t want to be tied in you know, I didn’t want to have to roll if I didn’t want to so I applied all over the place to basically have the option of if I wanted to walk on I could was gone. It was one of those that has made a great deal one team and they’re great with walk ons and then by the time like all the college decisions came back it was between UConn. immersa Connecticut, Syracuse US and Wisconsin. And so I didn’t want to go to UConn and it was just a choice between Wisconsin and Syracuse. They’re both super cold. And so it’s kind of just a question of what I liked more. I have have some family in Middleton, which definitely helps my decision. Oh, yeah. Because I would go there a lot freshman year, you know, on the weekends, just, you know, get in a hot meal and talk to talk to someone who wasn’t my age. But yeah, and then, you know, I just kind of visited and I knew a couple, a couple people here, who all recommended it. And it was just, I went to see we toured Syracuse, and it just, I was on the car ride home. It just didn’t feel right. You know, I was like, I think I know where I want to go. And yeah, so I chose Wisconsin, and I don’t regret a thing. I think this is the i i think it’s one of the best colleges. I got to so.

Ryan Freng 41:04
Nice. Yeah. So in were you. What about the film program? Like, did you get into the film program? Right away? Did Yeah. I mean, so the Film Art in something else? Yeah.

Tyler Kortekaas 41:16
I mean, our program is just through this College of Letters and Sciences. So right, right. It’s kind of take the classes if you want to. I don’t think it’s the most. It’s definitely not the most rigorous or elegant programs. But yeah, I just I started taking, I took a kind of wide range of classes my freshman year. And then I just liked my film classes. So I was like, this is going to do so I’m doing that. And then I’m also I minored, in computer science, because that’s what my dad, my dad went to grad school after photography school for coding. That’s what he does. So I did that. Because you know, that that would, I think that would be helpful, and he could help me with it. And then I also minored in French, because my mom speaks French. So

Ryan Freng 42:07
how’d you get in the Comp Sci?

Tyler Kortekaas 42:10
I mean, yeah, I completed the minor, the minor. Okay, nothing further. I, I like I do really like programming. It’s like, I coded my whole website, like from scratch, which was great. But it’s just, I don’t think it’s for me. It’s just Yeah, it’s frustrating.

Ryan Freng 42:30
Oh, yeah. I mean, it’s, it’s a whole different mindspace. From filmmaking to, to a certain degree, there’s still creative problem solving. But it’s on a different scale. When you’re creative problem solving with code, what you’re often doing is searching and reading and looking and testing and experimenting. When you’re great at problem solving and film. You’re making phone calls, you’re testing things out, you’re sharing things with other people, like it’s just such a more people focused collaborative kind of version of that, because I also so I’m three credits away from a comp sci major or whatever. Because that’s what I started off as. And then I was like, I’m really going to do film. But I keep kept doing the Comp Sci stuff because I really enjoyed it as well. And I hit one class that was integrated system something something it was it was chip in hardware design. It was fascinating, and sometimes fun, but it was like, Friday, and I 8am. And that didn’t jive well for college. Me. So I didn’t end up finishing off on set, which is kind of dumb. But yeah, that is what it is. Yeah.

Tyler Kortekaas 43:45
I mean, you could always go back. I’m

John Shoemaker 43:47
just, I’m just a few credits. Short of a biology major. So Wow. I’ve got a year of organic chemistry that counts as electives.

Tyler Kortekaas 44:00
In my, how was that? Oh, Cam? Yeah,

John Shoemaker 44:03
I was got well, I know I started going for I was pre med major in biology or something, and then I’ll go apply to med school and but I’ve been doing the same thing, like you, you know, I been making videos all along. I made them in high school and continue making them. But I just didn’t perceive that there was an option for me to do it as a career. And then when I started getting into that I was doing it, you know, for for fun for groups that I was a part of. And then taking some classes just like well, I’ll check out some of these classes. And then it was like, oh, yeah, there’s an entire there’s a whole industry here. There’s a lot of stuff like so I made that change, but

Tyler Kortekaas 44:57
yeah, yeah, I mean that’s that’s One of the reasons I kind of wanted to go into this this is, especially now like, I mean, media is, is a constant, it has been, honestly, like shoved down your throat all day. So I was like, I think they’ll definitely be jobs in the area for that. So I was like, you know, I wasn’t too worried about that.

Ryan Freng 45:20
Well, now there’s a democratization of it. So we can spin up our company here, and do really cool, unique work and not be in New York or Hollywood, or wherever I kind of want to go to Atlanta though, and, and just be able to have that experience and get those tax credits and try to do a creative project down there. But that I mean, that kind of gets to my next question, like, where, what do you want to do? Do? Did I hear that you you’re thinking about LA, like, that’s kind of what we’re what do you want to do?

Tyler Kortekaas 45:52
That is a good question. I mean, yeah, I I wish I’d thought about LA. But I don’t know if I really love it after a while. But I really want to make music videos. That’s my dream. Like I that’s my favorite thing is just editing to a song. And I, you know, when I go home, I just, I haven’t I if you guys ever have want YouTube recommendations I have, I have them unlock? Well, yeah. So yeah, that’s. And I made a music video for a friend of mine where I like, it was like kind of half live shots, half animation. And that was just like, I just, I like, dove into that project. So that’s something I want to do more of, I think. But as to where that is, it’ll probably be in California. But that’s

Ryan Freng 46:50
sure. I got time to think about that. Yeah, were you involved?

John Shoemaker 46:55
You got all these music video projects for your

Ryan Freng 47:00
we now have two music video projects that we’re working on. And people always contact us. But it’s okay. What can we do for $200? I’m like, Well, it’s hard to have a company and do something. Yeah. So now we’re just like, hey, you know, we have one client that can pay. And then another client that we’re like, Well, this is if we can control the creative and we can do whatever the heck we want. We’ll take it on for lower costs than than normal. So right do you have we have to so we’ll have to get you involved? Oh, awesome. I love and those Yeah, one is weird. So Max, who you’re talking about at max, like, I’ve always had this idea about this guy with a, with a planting pot for ahead. You know, flowers in it knows about the basis of the idea. And now we’ve we’ve spun out this whole idea, this whole concept for this music video that I think is awesome. We’ll share more with you offline, but just a random thing out of Max’s head that now we’ve turned into, hey, this is a viable project we’re doing with somebody.

Tyler Kortekaas 48:02
Right? Yeah. And that’s, I mean, I love music videos, because they can I mean, some of them are just so random, you know. But I don’t know, I think the blending of like, you know, just shots with music. And I think that’s just inherently like, I think that’s amazing. You know what I mean?

Ryan Freng 48:22
Yeah, and, you know, for me, I think, honestly, if I hadn’t connected with John, if I hadn’t met my future wife, I probably would have tried try to LA, I have friends out there who’ve been out there who’ve stayed long enough, you know, the seven to 10 years. And now they’re doing really great stuff. A lot of hard stuff. And they’re very different, you know, 3540 year olds. And they’re just thinking about family now, now that they have like a stable career. And I tell them, I’m John and I like 36 and 37. We each have a boatload of kids and things. So it’s just different paths that we were on but had I had I not been going down this path. I definitely was considering that path as well. So

Tyler Kortekaas 49:08
how did you guys meet?

Ryan Freng 49:11
Up did we meet? We should figure out like the first time that we we met Well, I

John Shoemaker 49:17
was waiting for a bus and he was shining shoes.

Ryan Freng 49:20
That’s true. Yeah. Wow. The age old tale.

John Shoemaker 49:25
We I mean, that’s one of those stories about you know, from college. We were I’m pretty sure it was at St. Paul’s. So we were both involved in like large group student event that happens once a month as a speaker, there’s music, there’s games and whatever. And I was like in the band and Brian was part of the team that kind of like ran the program and like did the intros and stuff. And then I’m pretty sure So that’s where we met. And probably the first stuff that we talked about together was like, hey, they want to do a video to like, you know, kind of as like a, you know, kickoff for the night hype hype thing or Yeah, some topic or whatever. And so they would, and then we were just like, make these goofy. whatever the heck we want in videos. We did a spoof of Are You Afraid of the Dark? Yeah, the are you afraid of the dark? Are you aware of this old Nickelodeon show? I’m not. It’s I’m sure it’s before your time. It was just like, it’s kind of like wood, you know, goose bumps, everybody. Okay, so it was it was just like, kids show telling, like ghost stories. And you know, we started with them around this campfire telling his story. And then we go into like the episode where we spooked it. We went out to Picnic Point with like, some students, right? So the campfire thing and then we scooped it and called it Are you afraid of the light? Oh, hey, did did some goofy videos there? And then, you know, some other friends and Ryan and I joined up on like, oh, there’s a contest like, you know, make a make a music video for this band, or here’s a contest for this product. It’s like, it’s really funny thinking about it. This is like way back in the heyday. It’s like the beginning of YouTube. And I think some of those first contests we did weren’t even on YouTube, because it was barely a thing or not a thing. They were like, upload them to servers. They were contests or, you know, whatever. And we did some of those. And we we won some of them. They weren’t great and videos, but they weren’t good enough to like win the contest. Like we won the contest for BlackBerry for this blackjack phone thing, and we like won some money. And then we did one for like, or maybe we won the laptop from that one. And then we did one for Pizza Hut for pizza bites. And we won. We won free pizza for a year. Awesome. Turns out that’s free pizza for a year. What do you think that means? That means you’re eating for free, right? No. Turns out it means one pizza every two weeks. Like, come on. We’re in college. It wasn’t super food anymore.

Tyler Kortekaas 52:41
At least you get like every two weeks like you get like a pizza night you know.

Ryan Freng 52:47
And you have to subscribe to Paramount plus, by the way to to watch out you’re afraid of the dark. But there is a new 2019 version. Oh, boy.

John Shoemaker 52:55
So so we did some of these things. That was fun. And then somebody we knew through that they were doing like this institute. Like a teach conference. Yeah, conference. And we’re like, can you? Can you guys do an intro video for this conference. And we went all out. We did the like, iPod dancing, green screen background when you can just see like that, or whatever. We did that kind of style. And just knock it out of the park. And then everyone was like, blown away, like, holy crap. How did you guys do this? It was really hard. Because we didn’t really know what we were doing. But we’re like, just figured it out. And then like, not long after that somebody else is like, Oh, hey, could you do a video for our conference? You know, we could probably pay you like 1000 bucks. You know, I’m like, Oh, let me like, did that and we like we bought a nice, not a 90s but we bought a used tripod with that money. And then we like and then somebody else is like, Oh, could you do a thing for our you know, thing and started just figuring it out?

Ryan Freng 54:12
Right? Like, we should probably get a bank account

John Shoemaker 54:15
forms form the business. We’re like, well, we got that somewhere to put it and I mean, it was a lot. It’s a long process, but we just kind of kept

Tyler Kortekaas 54:24
chipping away. And now look at you guys. And now look at us. chock full of toys and in the studio.

Ryan Freng 54:33
Now or Yeah, we got colored smoke cannons and you know, everything you ever dreamed of as a child. Big walls. Big fake studio walls. Actually, that’ll be really fun to see next week. So you see they’re kind of putting up the walls, but then how it transforms and then what it will look like next Thursday on camera, it’ll look, you know, like a factory like we’re in a factory so that’d be cool. We’d have to figure out how to get that smoke out. live there, I was just thinking to, like this smoke really bothers me. So Hannah left, because it bothered her so much. We’re in the whole separate side of the studio. The air is not connected. It’s just leaking through the ceiling maybe and the doors. I was thinking we need like a big tube or piping or whatever, and a fan. And as soon as that is coming out, and if we’re not doing the big gag, we just suck that out the door. That’s all not sink. You know, we don’t need audio for any of that. So that might be the only way we survived next Thursday. I don’t know.

Tyler Kortekaas 55:40
Alright, yeah. I gotta move desk just because my there’s a charger over here.

Ryan Freng 55:46
Oh, nice. Yeah, let me know if that’s not the right charger. I don’t know if it’s the older one of our newer one. Perfect.

Tyler Kortekaas 55:54
Still, well, that too.

Ryan Freng 55:57
Yeah, so what? In about 15 minutes, we’ll hit up the teachers and Ally game. But actually, John, what time are you leaving? You gotta leave in like 15 minutes. Okay, in like five minutes, we’ll head up teachers and ally. But like, I want to, you know, it feels like we’ve been talking for 10 minutes. I like to try to try to dig deep. And we might not get there this time. We’ll get get there next time, though. He’s trying to what? What’s something? I don’t know? Why Why make films like why do this? You know, what, who cares? Like, why is it useful? Like art is what you want to do useful, like, you know,

Tyler Kortekaas 56:46
I mean, I do it because I love it. But there was one video I made, which I just I forgot I made it, you know, I kind of you know, I always have these videos in the background. And I just, you know, sometimes I just forget that I made them or something. But there was just one video I made for Wii, for when I as I said, I used to row and it was a huge part of my high school. And we have these big team banquets every, every year, once a year, and I was a captain my senior year. So the captain’s got to speak and everything. And so I gave this big speech. And you know, I was in front of all the parents and everything, but I before. And none of the parents knew this. But all the seniors did, I interviewed all this seniors on the team, which was, they’re probably like, there’s a big team. So it was probably like 1520 of us. So I went out and I, you know, interviewed all of us at like, different points. And just kind of ask them, you know, what their favorite moment was for, you know, the last four years, you know, their name, where they’re going, just kind of one of those things. And then I put it all together. And then I sent it in, I just I kind of like I kind of just took over the like a projector, I just plugged it in. And we kind of just watched it, you know, and it was just like, it was a kind of funny video, you know, there was some jokes in there, but it was like, you know, everyone was watching it, you know, at the end, you kind of look around, and everyone, you know, it was one of those things that people still watch, because it’s like, you know, we’re all a little younger. But like, you know, I and all the parents came up to me, and they were saying, you know, this is like, thank you so much, you know, because it’s just, it was one of those things that I made. And it was, you know, it was easy enough for me to do. But, you know, I can watch that 1000 times, you know, and I can see myself when I was younger, and who I was. And we all have that, you know, and I think it was like at a time before everyone, you know, got older. But that’s, you know, I like to I can rewatch my videos and other videos that made with my friends. And it’s like, like, I was just sometimes filming my friends or hanging out and then I’ll you know, put up with some music or something, and then I’ll send it to him later and be like, you know, I’m like making this because it made me think of, you know, the good times we’ve had you know what I mean? I liked that it’s kind of a window into, like, the can be like a window into who you are.

Ryan Freng 59:14
Yeah, well said, storytelling. Thank you. Well, and like just bringing you back to a place that you were at, you know, at a period of time and sharing that experience in a new and different way.

Tyler Kortekaas 59:30
And yeah, that’s awesome. Entertaining, too. So, yeah, yeah, I mean, all right, to be entertained.

Ryan Freng 59:36
Well, and that’s all these things are like, it may or may not surprise you, it may surprise you. But they’re the things we tell people when they’re like, hey, we want a boring video about a fan. They don’t say boring, but the way they describe what they need is boring. And we say hey, instead, let’s do an action film. Right where we feature all the features of it in there because all these things People who would buy your product, they’re going to go home and they’re going to consume the next great Tom Cruise Mission Impossible, you know, they’re going to enjoy that. Or they love the kind of garbage Nick Cage action film. So let’s give them some entertainment, along with our messaging, and we think the messaging is gonna go a lot further. And that’s because we’re mercenaries. We’re mercenary artists, right? You know, pay you to do something like, Hey, jump when I say jump and sit when I say sit. But if at the same time, we do want to be artists, we want to do things our own way. We want to tell stories and ways that we want to consume them and maybe try and do something we haven’t seen before, if that’s even possible. So all those things that you were saying you love a kind of about the medium. Those are some of the selling points that we pitch.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:01:03
Get to now. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I was. And that’s great to hear. I was watching the other day your guys is on your YouTube, like you’re there your reel from not this most recent one, but one of the ones before and it’s that it’s got the background, like the the audio is some old like, some older guy about making commercials exciting. The

Ryan Freng 1:01:26
FCC. Yeah, it’s from the president of the FCC from like, the 60s, I think. Yeah.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:01:31
And I just thought, you know, like, just like, that’s an offers off. Great choice. But I was like, that’s such an awesome speech. Because it Yeah, I mean, like, there’s gonna be commercials for everything forever. So they don’t have I don’t see why yet. And that’s what I like. That’s why I like what you guys do. Because it’s like, Why? Why making boring?

Ryan Freng 1:01:49
Yeah, yeah, no one’s gonna like that. I mean, certainly people. I think the difference too, is like, there’s people who don’t know how to do it any other way. They’re just like, This is how I do stuff. Alright. And that’s fine. Like, we need some level of people who can do that, like we need talented people at every stage. But that’s not what we’re going to do. And nor would we ever do anything like that, you know, we’re going to always consider how to push the boundaries and do something different. And that’s what I saw when I was younger. And that’s what I wanted to do. Because it was unique striving for this creative difference. In a world of a lot of sameness,

Tyler Kortekaas 1:02:37
right? Yeah. Like a shining light kind of thing.

Ryan Freng 1:02:41
Yeah. Yeah. and have some fun along the way, like you said, Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. All right. Well, let me see. Let me do this right. Now it’s time for.

That’s right. That’s right, we have a stinger. Because we can make stingers, we can do all the things. So we’ll do this one. First, who’s What’s that? That’s my one of my daughters. I just had her loop it a couple times. She should be a little kid model. She’s the cutest, and she listens to direction. So well. We’re gonna play two truths and a lie where each of us are going to tell three different stories, and everyone else has to guess what the lie is revealing the truths, or vice versa, guess the truth, revealing the lie. And if you’re at home and watching your live, we’re live. Let us know your guesses. And if you guessed correctly, we’ll even send you some sweet swag. Like these. Let’s make awesome coasters, or just the straight up Chevron. You know, also, if you use Plex Media Server, it’s, it’s very similar. So you can you can promote them as well. So we’ll start with us. If you haven’t we told you before somebody tells you maybe Hannah told you or somebody told you before, at dinner or lunch that we were going to do this. So you might have thought of it? If not you have

Tyler Kortekaas 1:04:14
Well, I didn’t realize it was stories. I thought it was just statements. Yeah,

Ryan Freng 1:04:17
I mean, it’s it’s statements. That’s kind of what it starts with, and then we may ask deeper questions. Sounds good. John, have you thought of yours yet? Okay, I’ve got mine. That sounds like no. So I’ll go first since no one else is ready. So I can hyper extend both of my thumbs. I can hyper extend my jaw. And I can hyper extend my knees. So I’m taking a little different route. I’ve told a lot of stories. Yeah, go ahead.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:04:57
So what is it? What does it mean to hyperextend?

Ryan Freng 1:05:00
to hyperextend to move beyond the typical motion.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:05:06
Do you ever get stuck?

Ryan Freng 1:05:10
Not anytime recently. Does it hurt? My jaw? Yeah.

John Shoemaker 1:05:20
Just just be in general No.

Ryan Freng 1:05:25
And then I try not to hyper extend it. So I don’t know that. I was gonna say even when I was little before I knew it was a bad thing. I don’t think it ever really hurt

Tyler Kortekaas 1:05:38
and never hurt. Did I would get headaches. How did you find out you could hyperextend your jaw.

Ryan Freng 1:05:46
The doctor was testing it because I was getting headaches and I was at the dentist. I was at the dentist. Yeah. And I liked this line of questioning. Talking about headaches. And then they asked me, you know about my jaw had me open it. You saw me hyperextend it.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:06:04
So you were at the dentist because you’re getting headaches.

Ryan Freng 1:06:09
I don’t know so long ago, like I was at the dentist. And I remember they were the ones who figured it out. And I also remember that I was getting headaches. So I don’t know what order things happen.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:06:19
All right, I’ve heard enough about the jaw. I would like to hear about the phones now. You find out about the phones.

Ryan Freng 1:06:27
Just kind of like a carnival trick that I could do that. Other kids couldn’t. So used to just do it a lot as a kid. Like, hey, look what I can do.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:06:41
And then how about your knee as you find that?

Ryan Freng 1:06:44
Sports? So? Yeah, well, it was it kind of exacerbated in swimming. But I mean, it’s very low impact sport. It’s very low impact. But I have to be careful when I’m using flippers, because my knee will hyper extend. So it puts too much pressure on my hyper extended knee. But it was actually I think it was basketball in gym class maybe. And I landed on it wrong, because they easily hyperextend

Tyler Kortekaas 1:07:17
interesting. I think I know my answer. I don’t know about how about you, John? Yeah. Yeah, go for it.

John Shoemaker 1:07:29
Going with the knees. Your knees. Are you an ostrich?

Tyler Kortekaas 1:07:34
I’m always gonna go with the knees.

Ryan Freng 1:07:38
I cannot hyperextend my knees. My my oldest daughter can my oldest daughter can I it’s very easy to do. What that

Tyler Kortekaas 1:07:49
is on my head. So

Ryan Freng 1:07:50
essentially, it’s just like, you know, going past straight. Right? So you can’t do that. I can’t really do it anymore with my thumb. Like, I don’t know if you can see how it comes in. Like it shouldn’t bend that way. Same thing with my jaw. Like there’s a point that it pops. I I don’t really do it anymore. Yeah, and then my daughter she she can hyper extend her knees. So she’s got to be real careful when she’s dancing. Right? Yeah, it’s a thing. So you guys both win. Or I’m just terrible at this game. Who knows? Johnny, you’re up. All

John Shoemaker 1:08:29
right. This is not stuff that happened to me.

Ryan Freng 1:08:34
Ooh, wait, you can guess at home to Emily thought the thumbs was a lie. Sorry, Emily. Sorry. I’m special kind of weird.

John Shoemaker 1:08:43
It’s not stuff that happened to me and stuff I did to other people. Who ministering. One time I hyper extended my sister’s thumb. Ah another time I gave my dog Wally a concussion. Oh. And another time I broke some kids ankle at soccer practice.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:09:13
Oh, ah. Algebraic the ankle

John Shoemaker 1:09:18
was running for a ball. And I swung to kick it and he had his foot in the way and he was he just went down.

Ryan Freng 1:09:27
When was kind of what kind of break was it? Yeah.

John Shoemaker 1:09:29
It was a pretty, pretty big bad break. This was

Ryan Freng 1:09:39
like, yeah, when was it? Eighth grade freshman year. Oh, I lost my ears.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:09:48
What about how do you how do you can cast your dog, Wally?

John Shoemaker 1:09:54
Well, I didn’t really do it. He he slammed into a screen door. Okay, indoor outdoor patio. And he.

Ryan Freng 1:10:04
He just made waves my audio is back. We can hear you. He can’t hear me. Do you can hear me now we can hear you can see it. Yes. Okay. I can’t hear you. I don’t know what the heck’s going on. Sorry. You continue until I can hear you.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:10:20
So you you said your dog ran into a screen door.

John Shoemaker 1:10:23
You ran into our screen door you do blew up the screen door. And then he got a concussion.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:10:30
I don’t think he could get a concussion from running into a screen door. That’s interesting.

John Shoemaker 1:10:36
He hasn’t snowboard.

Ryan Freng 1:10:38
I’m back. Somehow my my thing got muted. Where?

Tyler Kortekaas 1:10:45
And then how’d you hyperextend your sister’s thought

John Shoemaker 1:10:49
we were watching TV after school. And she made me she made me mad. She was bothering me. I told her to stop. And then she didn’t. And I just grabbed your hand and I just went like that. And further than I thought it would.

Ryan Freng 1:11:07
Did you already answer how you gave your dog a concussion?

John Shoemaker 1:11:10
I said, Well, actually I didn’t he he can cost himself when he blew up our screen door. He ran into our screen door

Ryan Freng 1:11:18
when he ran into your fist.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:11:22
This is a really tricky one. Actually, that may have happened. They all seem like lies to

John Shoemaker 1:11:25
me and share the I thought you’re going the other way. Tell her that you’d be like, Oh, they all saw you sound like a truthful. They all sound like everything is utter lies.

Ryan Freng 1:11:37
But I haven’t, I would I would kind of gravitate towards the thumb because it sounds so ridiculous that you would grab her and do that. But that would be a great story. That’d be a great way to trick people.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:11:50
And it’s also it’s too convenient that it’s a hybrid hyperextension story. Right after all these hyper extended

Ryan Freng 1:11:56
top. Yeah, well, if people have watched before, they’ll know that. That’s my trick. I tried to come up with a very similar story to what John says. It’s very confusing, though. super confusing. Yeah. So and then you punched a dog in the head. And was the third one. The first one that we started discussing. broke. Oh, you broke an ankle. Yeah. Okay. Tyler, Tyler, what’s your guess?

Tyler Kortekaas 1:12:25
I think it’s the dog.

Ryan Freng 1:12:27
You think is the dog Emily thinks it’s the dog. The dog can cost himself. I feel like that’s the thing that dog would do. I’m gonna say the thumb. That’s my guess.

John Shoemaker 1:12:40
Congratulations, Tyler and Emily. are the winners of this round. Get this. He did not get a concussion. He’s just an idiot. He did break the screen door. I did hyperextend my sister’s thumb. I knew I was gonna use it. As soon as I heard your stories, Ryan because it would be a perfect throw off. You know how siblings get the amount of press buttons, you know, and I just grabbed her hand and I really just grabbed her hand and kind of like pulled it or whatever. But I hyperextend her thumb. She let out a blood curdling scream. We had to go to the doctor. She had a softball tournament that weekend to play in. And the ROI for me was I had to go to the softball tournament and sit there at every game and watch her pitch. And then after pitching, reach down and scoop up a right handed glove like Louis the one arm wonder and and play this tournament with was really awesome. Wow. Arm and a thing. That’s awesome. That was a punishment. But I remember.

Ryan Freng 1:13:53
That’s so awesome. Love, Liz. That’s really cool. All right, John is 215 Do you have to leave or I gotta turn for Tyler.

John Shoemaker 1:14:02
We’ll find live. All right. Well

Ryan Freng 1:14:04
still do Tyler. All right. Awesome. Thanks, John. We’ll catch you next time. Bye, John. Very nice. I thought I’d done number two. Okay. Tyler

Tyler Kortekaas 1:14:15
miner pretty good. So all right.

Ryan Freng 1:14:21
All right. Oh, that’s perfect. lie. Lie.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:14:26
I have a twin. I have lived in a different country. And I play guitar.

Ryan Freng 1:14:40
Ooh, so the guitar seems like innocuous like that seems like a you know very easily could be the twin. That’s great. We clearly do not know about your family. shouldn’t ask more questions about your family. And then you’ve lived in an Our country. Let’s see. You didn’t talk anything about so you made films with a friend friends in high school. You never said anything about a sibling. So that sounds suspicious who was born first? She was born first. What’s her name? Samantha? Was her middle name?

Tyler Kortekaas 1:15:29
Just yeah. The name of my grandmother

Ryan Freng 1:15:32
Christiane or did you just

Tyler Kortekaas 1:15:35
add French?

Ryan Freng 1:15:36
Okay. Let’s see where do you go to school? Vancouver? Vancouver,

Tyler Kortekaas 1:15:44
British Columbia. University of British Columbia.

Ryan Freng 1:15:47
University of British Columbia. Okay. All right. What country do you live in? England? What city?

Tyler Kortekaas 1:15:58
London. It’s a small city.

Ryan Freng 1:16:02
What was the street that you’re on?

Tyler Kortekaas 1:16:06
How it how it Park?

Ryan Freng 1:16:08
How it park it’s like it’s like on the border of good be possible. Also sounds ridiculous. Like you’re just coming up out of your butt with it. And then what was the third one? I play guitar. Play guitar. Favorite song to strum on the guitar? Wonderful. Now Freebird

Tyler Kortekaas 1:16:36
No, I wish.

Ryan Freng 1:16:39
Let’s see. Do you play electric?

Tyler Kortekaas 1:16:41
Yeah, I have a Fender

Ryan Freng 1:16:44
Okay. Hmm, you do have quick answers. I’m still a little suspicious of the the twin. Because you just like you just started kind of wide, like Vancouver, British Columbia. University of British Columbia. You just kind of started kind of wide with that. Just when she graduating.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:17:13
She is graduating. She’s doing a co op there. So two years because I’m graduating early. And she scheduled a year late.

Ryan Freng 1:17:25
That sounds legit. Let’s see. The country. Emily thinks that guitar is a lie. Jeez. I’m gonna have to go with Emily on this one. Because the other two just you had some good quick answers. It felt it felt good. Yeah, you lived in London. I don’t know. My backup is is you’ve lived overseas, but I’m going to say guitar.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:17:58
Guitar is the lie. Ah, got it.

Ryan Freng 1:18:02
Nice. Yeah, that was that was good. It was interesting. Like, very specific, unique details. And you still had the fender like, John might have been able to grill you more on that? Yeah. Yeah, I lucked out on that. Yeah, you saw.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:18:18
Exactly. Yes. For the guitar.

Ryan Freng 1:18:20
So what’s that? Yeah. Questions. Yeah, I was like, how do you ask questions about somebody’s capability to play? Like, Nate, I mean, name your five chords.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:18:33
G, A, B, C, A.

Ryan Freng 1:18:39
mean kind of, kind of, I guess Yeah. Yeah, GC D. A. Those are probably be your first four. Yeah. If I could, I could have done it. But I just I used Emily’s skills. And it’s about two, two for three for Emily’s two for three. And let’s say you got you were two for two. So we’ll give you some of these. You can take some of these home. If you if you leave us and go to LA you’ll take these with and you can always remember us so, right. That’s great. That’s what we got for today. Anything else you wanted to say? Or plug? Do you have to plug your website or anything else?

Tyler Kortekaas 1:19:25
Um, yeah, I mean, my websites tired quarter cast.com Or just quarter cost of time, actually. But no, just thank you for a great first week. Really excited to

Ryan Freng 1:19:37
be here. Yeah, you just wait till week two.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:19:40
That’s one of the real hazing starts.

Ryan Freng 1:19:42
We call that hell week. Yeah. All right. So check that out. Down over there. Quarter. cost.com This is Tyler. I’m Ryan. I got some graphics here too that I got throw up. Where is it? There it is. Check out the podcast if you’re not listening. To this yet, you should check it out over there. We’re actually like 4050 episodes behind in the podcast. So it’s kind of like it’s a trip through time back two years ago, so we have all of these that we filmed, the early happy hours that we’re now turning into podcasts. So those are coming out every Saturday. So tune in, let’s back flip.com Let’s back up show or wherever podcasts are sold. That’s where we are. Check that out. That’s what I got. Thanks for hanging in Tyler. It was fun. Thanks for having me. Just we just started getting into it. So next time, we’ll we’ll really, you know, get below that first onion layer as it works. All right, cool. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, Emily. See you guys next time. Bye.

Tyler Kortekaas 1:20:47

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